I have been reading these posts and I am wondering what ya'll would suggest: the 16F877 or the 18F452. I have been programming pic's for about 3 months and have a small autonomous robot controlled by a 16F628 working. I am wondering what to do next it is obvious that I need to move on to better pic's, but which one? I know that the 18F452 is better etc., but I am wondering which would be better for my level of experience. Thanks! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads