Hi all, Well I got my wings presented to me the other night :-) They were supposed to raffle the propellor clock I donated for the runway sealing fund raiser, but due to other raffles, it was decided that it was a bit too much to expect from everyone, so it will be raffled another time. It sure made a few eyes pop out and I'm sure the raffle will go off well. I've already been asked to make more and the president of the club, who is also a QANTAS captain, wants two. I knew this would happen, and I'm not sure I can put a price on something that took that long to make. Anyway, the tinkerer that I am, I have designed a simpler way (yet to be tested) and I told them I "would see". As part of my circuit, I used a relay to convert a full wave rectified AC input to a half wave to detect when the "time set" switch is pressed. This is just a series diode being switched in and out of a leg of the AC path to the full wave rectifier. Is there a way to do this without a relay? One interesting spin off, was that I got asked to help out with the instrument flight rules simulator that they are building. -- Best regards Tony mICros http://www.bubblesoftonline.com mailto:sales@bubblesoftonline.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu