Roman wrote... >2. Is it worth learning the 18F instruction set? I know >the main use of these chips is for larger projects which >suit a higher level language, but i'm more interested >in having the extra processing power especially once the >18 and 8 pin 18F chips are obtainable. Well worth the small effort, in my opinion. It may well be that the 18F series were intended for larger projects and to be more compiler-friendly; but I'm finding the 18F is more assembler-friendly as well: no more ROM paging; three independent FSR's/INDF's; auto increment/decrement available on the FSR's; hardware multiply; table lookups in hardware; common-sense branch instructions; and lots more RAM. I'm well along with my first big 18F452 project, and my impression is it's much, MUCH easier to work with than the PIC16 parts I've been used to. Most of what I do is low-volume, high-ticket stuff in which development cost ends up being a significant part of the product piece cost; and I expect the 18F will give me big savings. Every programming task just seems a lot more straightforward than with the 16's- which in my mind makes them more hobbyist-friendly, too. >Any other tips etc are appreciated. :o) Get Microchip's ICD2. It works nice, and if it ever does stop working, the round package allows it to do double-duty as a hockey puck. DD -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu