The stories you hear second hand when you work with ex Telstra people..... #1 Painter was freshing up the walls in a telephone exchange. Placed his paint can on the convienient metal busbars, and the paint flash boiled and left a pretty pattern on the wall. #2 Digging trenches for comms lines on campus, dug too deep, and pulled up the ring main, big flash and sustained arc. By the time the power was shut off the digger was welded solid. #3 Contractors opened up the the access doors on one of those ground mounted street transformers in darwin. whatever they touched started an arc, so they steped back and rang for help. Neither was equipped with gloves or any other safety equipment. -- CW -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body