Jim wrote: > > I had an idea that pulses caused by the brushes on the commutator could be > conditioned to digital levels and used as an encoder. Connecting a scope > to a small dc motor while running shows a pulse of 20mv whose frequency is > in proportion to the speed. It seems like capacitive coupling and amplifier > to the motor and maybe using a schmitt trigger at the amp out would be a working > alternative to opto sensors. Hi Jim, here's one i've been using for years; http://www.romanblack.com/encoder.htm It needs some motor load (ie brush current) to work and its not great for wide speed control. It is ok for a simple tacho or for relatively constant loads like fans, spindles etc. :o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.