I saw this and had to comment, then I have to run and get some real work done... (GRIN). One company I work for built out their phone system using all Voice-over-IP technology (Cisco's version) and will never have a traditional PBX or phone system, ever. I help maintain it. Now the "router guys" (IP Network Engineers) take care of phone moves/adds/changes. Heh. THAT's a switch! Of course, they can all be done from his/her desk with a mouse as long as the Ethernet-powered phone is plugged into the network somewhere and has its assigned IP address. (The phones are powered from 48VDC that's added to the Ethernet ports at the Cisco switch.) Integration with the company e-mail system and voice mail is a nice touch that comes from it... all voice mail shows up as an e-mail attachment you can play through the PC speakers on your laptop or desktop and when you delete that e-mail the voice mail light goes out on the phone, as well as being able to fire up a "SoftPhone" software app on a Windows PC and put a headset on, and anyone can call you "on your desk phone" no matter if you're in Denver, Tijuana Mexico, San Diego, etc. With the addition of VPN routers, the same can be done from any place you can find a decent "broadband" Internet connection. The technology is new, and rolling it out to the residential market wouldn't work, but at a small to medium-sized company just starting out, it's great. It's probably not cost-effective for a business that already has a large PBX to replace their system with the Cisco stuff, but a new company just starting up that's mid-sized would be fools not to look into it if they have good networking folks. We still have the occasional server crash, but Cisco's application of the technology allows for server redundancy, so calls continue to go through while we figure out what nasty little bug in relatively immature software is causing the hiccup on the other server... to be expected for newer stuff, to some extent nowadays... but generally it "just works" and works well enough that no one would know we don't have a Lucent Definity in the back room if they didn't look carefully at what plug the Cisco phones are plugged into under the desk... Nate On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 10:34, Brendan Moran wrote: > > Sounds like free long-distance telephony using digitized voice > > over your "free" internet connection, which Bob Metcalfe once > > likened to the free heating you could get by stealing rolls of > > toilet tissue from public restrooms and burning them in your > > furnace. > > I'd say that Voice Over IP is here to stay. Especially since you're already > paying for the data connection. Once it's paid for, what data you send > where is your business. > > --Brendan > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.