> > I'll see your fluro starter and raise you a line of metal can transistors > > in the lab power sockets and then turn the mains on. Well, my version of that (when I was much, much younger, back before I knew Ohm's law) was a bent paperclip, and an old toaster switch. I wanted to see if it would glow... Well, it did, for about a second, before the main CB went. (That's right, it tripped the second level breaker. The breaker for that branch never blew. But that's not my best story. When I was taking a power electronics course in college, we were in the machines lab, doing some kind of lab with big resistor banks. My friend had just finished his lab with his partner, and they were starting to take down the wiring, when my friend gets shocked and yelps "Ow! It's still on!" His lab partner somehow missinterprets that as "these resistors sure are hot" and cotinues to disassemble his part of the circuit, until he drops two of the wires together which, of course, arc for a second, but not long enough to blow fuses or breakers. He then says something to the effect of "Hey, it's still on!" --Brendan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.