Hi, List. With all this talk about cars, I thought I'd throw a question into the mix. I just discovered that my new 2002 Pontiac Aztec may actually be collecting data about my driving habits. (Of course, it is.) My queston is, how can I access this data MyOwnSelf? http://www.activedayton.com/ddn/local/0822car.html According to this link, it appears to actually do this through the *airbag computer?*, I guess because it knows when you crash. For that matter, is there any place on the web where I can learn more about the computerized aspects of this car? It is the most highly computerized vehicle I have ever owned, and I'm not sure I completely like the idea. For example, I cannot "turn off" the headlights. It, and it alone, decides when they will go off. It allows me to program the response to the keyfob, opening all doors when I press unlock, or opening only the driver's door. And, it tells me when to change the oil; then requires a user-initated reset of the oil-change system, initiated by three presses of the accelerator pedal while holding something else in, blah, blah, blah. Any info would be appreciated. Mark Skeels Engineer Competition Electronics www.CompetitionElectronics.com ------------------ "Refusal to apply available knowledge for reasons of special interest was, as it often is now, a major part of the problem." --Russell McMahon meskeels@earthlink.net Soli Deo Gloria! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.