> I'll see your fluro starter and raise you a line of metal can transistors > in the lab power sockets and then turn the mains on. When I was a kid I wanted to see what would happen if you plugged in one of those little neon lights *without* that silly series resistor. But, the best one was in college where I plugged in a telephone mouthpiece. This produced a spectacular 1m orange flame shooting out straight, along with a very satifying bang and evil looking smoke. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.