Toyota RAV4e electric. http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/vehicles/ravev/rav4ev_0_home/index.html > "In addition to generating zero emissions, the revolutionary 67-hp motor > is capable of approaching 78 mph, more than adequate for both street > and highway driving." 67 HP (= suspiciously close to 50 kW.) Suggesting a rather high power capability battery. > "Utilizing 24 high-capacity, nickel-metal hydride batteries, Spec page says 24 x 12v batteries (!) Onboard charger rated at 30A x 220v and takes 7.5 hours 30 x 220 x 7.5 = 50 kWH Allow inefficiency losses in charger and battery storage to give about 40 kWH energy storage. 40,000 / 12v / 24 batteries ~= 140 AH batteries. That's about 3 times the capacity of a typical car battery. Even allowing for the superior capacity of NiMH that's a top spec battery. Pretend max range available at 30 mph so time = 126 miles /30 = 4 hours or so. (Note that 126 miles is suspiciously close to 200 km :-) ) 40 kWH/4 = 10 kW ~= 13 HP average. Not vast and much less than the 67 HP peak. 50 kW peak power /12v/24 =~ 175A peak - entirely believable. (Batteries will not all be in series almost certainly but sums work out the same.) 100,000 mile battery life. 100000/126 miles per charge =~ 800 charges = about 2 years > Say goodbye, aircar. How much will 24 x 12v x 130 AH NiMH batteries cost? I'd GUESS that a figure of $US200 per battery would be in the ballpark and probably low - possibly very low. (A standard auto use battery half that capacity in Lead Acid is $US40 ish trade here. Deep discharge and marine use are far more. The NimH has to be very good at deep discharge.) 24 *$200/2 = $2400 per year or $6 per trip. Proportionately more if batteries cost more. 126 miles @ $6 = 5c/mile or highly competitive with petrol (depending what country you live in). On top of this there is a purchase incentive which I think was $3000 pa for 3 years. May have read that wrong? Plus you get to park in special car parks. Apparently battery disposal costs and energy production at a distance are acceptable compared to smog. I wonder how long the 100+ Californian recharge stations will continue to give away 40 kWH = $4 charges for free? Air cars may still have a place. But, bureaucracy being what it is, you probably wouldn't be allowed to park one in spaces reserved for electric cars :-) Russell McMahon > > --Brendan > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.