Hi All, Just wanted to let everyone know I got my first pic program working. Although it wasn't the one I wrote, I still feel pretty good about the experience. I used the 4bit counting program on the Cheapic site. The only downside to the experience is I burnt up one of my 16F84A's after I had it working. I took it out of the prototyping board then decided to put it back in and missed the row alignment by one pin. All the LEDs went dim then off. The chip never worked again even after reprogramming it. I'm just glad I didn't use my F877 :) I'd like to thank everyone who gave me suggestions and took the time to help me out. Sincerely, Scott Pierce -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.