"Not in mine," Of course not. And yours is not a *new* vehicle either, Herb. (Neither are Ford model T's.) Neither is my 1983 Euro-spec (graymarket) 500SEL that will still take most of the cars discussed so far today. Imagine - a fuel injection system implemented using purely mechanical means - how primitive! But that's the way it's done in this 500SEL ... and it *also* has an ECM for spark control *and* it's equipped with an airbag (years before American cars) ... Rf Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Graf" To: Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [OT]: Gas & taxes (was Online electronics store) > > "If it were a standard I'd get even better > > mileage. Of course in the city it's worse > > (since I'm never in overdrive in the city)." > > > > > > We've come a LONG ways from the two-speed GM > > "Powerglide" (Slush-o-matic!) that sat behind > > the 283 CID V8 power plant that was in my Dad's > > 1964 Chevy Belair. > > Actually the car I drive isn't that new, an 88 Olds Delta 88. > > > Today's lock-up torque converters in today's > > automatic tranmissions aren't as inefficient > > as they once were, and can, against *most* > > drivers probably out-do a manual transmission > > mileage wise. > > I'm not sure about that, in mine the torque converter only engages in third > gear above about 60 km/h, in city traffic it almost never locks. > > > Today it's no longer just a case of the mechanical > > levers and linkages or a fluid 'computer' that > > determines which gear is selected - there's a > > micro in the loop ... > > Not in mine, while it does have an ECM it has nothing to do with gear > selection (although it is in charge of the torque convertor lock up). TTYL > > -- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics