>> Anybody know the gas mileage specs of the Honda hybrid electrics off >> the top of their head? > 50mpg/US$20K for the Civic. Honda has two hybrids now: the 50 mpg Civic, which seats 4 (5 if small) and looks "normal", and the Insight, which I've heard can approach 70 mpg, seats only 2, and looks "funky". I suppose it's for aerodynamics, but it never looks good to me to cover up half of the back wheel the way the Insight does. I would be curious to know how often that battery pack will need to be replaced - that will be a significant expense that your typical diy'er probably won't be able to get around (unlike replacing your own engine, for example). -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics