Nope.  You're misquoting me... tch, tch, tch.

I meant "...higher gas mileage *than it currently
has*...".

That would be rather difficult to get a V8 to have
better gas mileage than the Insight.

Cheers,
-Neil.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:54 PM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [OT]: Gas & taxes (was Online electronics store)
>
>
>   "I'm sure I can get a regular Ford Mustang
>    to give me higher gas mileage [than a Honda
>    Insight] with the more accurate wide-band
>    O2 sensors.'
>
> And I'll bet not.
>
> Because 1) *you're* not incorporating regenerative braking
> and recovering otherwise waste energy and 2) your power
> plant's efficiency will be a lot less given any particular
> cruise speed ... the Insight's electric motor *augments*
> the gasoline engine when required to get up to
> speed/climbing small hills ...
>
> RF Jim
>
>
>     "Our ability to manufacture fraud has exceeded
>      our  ability to detect it."
>
>      - Al Pacino as Viktor Taransky in the movie 'Simone'
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pic Dude" <picdude@PILOTTOOLS.COM>
> To: <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT]: Gas & taxes (was Online electronics store)
>
>
> > The lower used price says something strong about resale
> > value ... or lack thereof.
> >
> > To achieve high gas mileage, they use very high-end
> > components to get very accurate & efficient fuel control.
> > For example, the Insight uses wide-band O2 sensors, rather
> > than the regular O2 sensors most current EFI cars use.
> > However, when it's time to replace these, it costs >$600
> > a piece.
> >
> > I'm sure I can get a regular Ford Mustang to give me higher
> > gas mileage with the more accurate wide-band O2 sensors.
> > Even more if the body were made with the same composite
> > materials, the wheel-wells covered, the car size shrunk
> > down and streamlined, etc.
> >
> > My point here is that this is still not an
> > apples-to-apples comparison.  "Regular" combustion-engined
> > vehicles can gain a noticeable increase in fuel efficiency
> > using the similar technologies or level of technology that
> > the Insight uses, diminishing the apparent benefits of the
> > Insight.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Neil.
> >
> >
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