"I'm sure I can get a regular Ford Mustang to give me higher gas mileage [than a Honda Insight] with the more accurate wide-band O2 sensors.' And I'll bet not. Because 1) *you're* not incorporating regenerative braking and recovering otherwise waste energy and 2) your power plant's efficiency will be a lot less given any particular cruise speed ... the Insight's electric motor *augments* the gasoline engine when required to get up to speed/climbing small hills ... RF Jim "Our ability to manufacture fraud has exceeded our ability to detect it." - Al Pacino as Viktor Taransky in the movie 'Simone' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pic Dude" To: Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [OT]: Gas & taxes (was Online electronics store) > The lower used price says something strong about resale > value ... or lack thereof. > > To achieve high gas mileage, they use very high-end > components to get very accurate & efficient fuel control. > For example, the Insight uses wide-band O2 sensors, rather > than the regular O2 sensors most current EFI cars use. > However, when it's time to replace these, it costs >$600 > a piece. > > I'm sure I can get a regular Ford Mustang to give me higher > gas mileage with the more accurate wide-band O2 sensors. > Even more if the body were made with the same composite > materials, the wheel-wells covered, the car size shrunk > down and streamlined, etc. > > My point here is that this is still not an > apples-to-apples comparison. "Regular" combustion-engined > vehicles can gain a noticeable increase in fuel efficiency > using the similar technologies or level of technology that > the Insight uses, diminishing the apparent benefits of the > Insight. > > Cheers, > -Neil. > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics