Ok, I found a formula for the power in compressed air. Pair [W] = Qv [m^3/sec] * Press [kgf/m^2] 300bar is ~3x10^6 kgf/m^2 Assuming you need 10hp to move the car at about half the max. speed (for max. efficiency) you need 8kW for 6 hours (300km at 55km/h, half the max. speed). That's 21600 seconds. Assuming 20bar equivalent pressure in the motor (I just picked that number for reasonable end pressure in the tank - 20 bars is about ten times the pressure in a usual shop air end hose and a usual working pressure in many pneumatic circuits): Qv = Pair [W] / Press [kgf/m^2] = 8000/204000 = 0.04 [m^3/sec] for 21600 seconds: V = 864 [m^3] which at 300 bars (15 times more than 20bars) are: V1 = 57.6 [m^3] which is less than their 90m^3 tank and very credible because I assumed 100% efficiency and theirs is lower, about 64% (based on the ratio of their tank volume and V1 above). There would be the small problem of keeping the whole thing from *freezing* stiff, this requires about 6-7kW of heat *input* while working (remember expanding gas cools it down). This is what they use the compression of atmospheric air for I think. Recharging the thing would require the same energy input (assuming 100% efficiency as above but with their tank volume). Eg 6-8kW for 12 hours, probably more like 6-8kW for 14-18hours to account for efficiency. 300bar compressors do not grow on trees so I suppose it comes with the car (maybe the motor is reversible and they have an electric motor to drive it). Guy Negre was a F1 mechanic in a previous life I think, and he must know what he is doing. I liked the idea of soy oil lubrication ;-). Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu