> Yup. Well, then, here's my experience on the subject: First there was the sroting it with the metal nose of a mechanical pencil, which produced a moderate snap, as I'm sure you can imagine. Then, for some reason, I got the bright idea of trying shorting it with the pencil lead, expecting nothing to happen due to the higher resistance in the carbon of the pencil lead. Well, instead, it superheated, I guess, because it went off like a fuse, and gave a bit of a flash, and quite a pop. Good luck, --Brendan -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body