I am a relative beginner at scopes so take all this with a grain of salt. (BTW I bought a Tek 475 off ebay about 18 months ago. I like it). You can trigger the scope of the 60 hz power line (similar to using a function generator at 60 hz), but your signal will not be correlated to the external trigger so I don't think it will be much use. (but try it, and see what you can see). My guess would be to try to get the gyro to produce a periodic signal. You could put together a little rig that would move the gyro back and forth at a constant rate. Something like a cam on a drill (or other) motor in contact with a board the the gyro is attached to. Use gravity or a spring to keep the board in contact with the cam. Or use a rod - one end pivot attached the the gyro assembly, the other pivot attached to a spinning disk. Or, double side tape the gyro to a washing machine and put it in spin mode with an unbalanced load :) With a period signal form the gyro, you will be able to sync up and get a close up picture of a small signal. --BobG -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Bob Japundza Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:26 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [EE]: measuring jitter on a scope I am working with a piezo gyro that puts out a bit of noise/jitter in its output. I have a couple of different op-amp filter circuits I've thrown together to see how well they clean up the output of the gyro, but at the same time not screw with the bandwidth of the gyro's output. The gyro puts out approximately 2.5v at a steady state, and goes up/down from there depending on the direction of rotation. I have been trying to measure the noise level of the output with my scope without success; I assume it is because I don't have anything to trigger off of. My guess is that I need a function generator (which I don't have at the moment, but one is on the way) tied into the external trigger input of the scope and "sample" that way. Can anyone tell me that I'm correct in my thinking? What frequency should I use to sample the output? Also, it seems my scope is a bit out of calibration (Tek 475). I have just located some manuals on ebay; is it difficult for one to calibrate this scope, or should I be looking to send the scope off somewhere to be calibrated? thanks, Bob -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.