"It is not that I don't accept that mankind is contributing to Global Warming it is just the ratio between natural and manmade." We have been made victims of some VERY bad science. I don't know why the "Chicken Little syndrome" has hit us all - but it has. I would rather cite semthing like this than the loosely based premises most use in supporting claims of 'global warming'. (Of course, we are all free to believe anything we want, even bad science and lies from those we think are acting only in atruistic (sp?) roles.) + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Book pins climate change mostly on natural processes LAWRENCE -- A new book on global climate change states that geological and oceanic changes have had a larger impact on the world's climate than human activity. "The evidence shows that there are constant natural changes in the climate, and in both directions, from warmer to cooler and from cooler to warmer" said Lee Gerhard, a geologist at the Kansas Geological Survey based at the University of Kansas and one of the editors of "Geological Perspectives of Global Climate Change." The book was published by the American Association of Petroleum Geologists. Its editors include Gerhard and William Harrison, also a geologist at the Kansas Geological Survey based at KU. The causes behind these changes are more difficult to discern but many of them are related to changes in earth's atmosphere and geology, according to the book, a collection of 18 papers written primarily by earth scientists. Some small-scale changes in climate are driven by factors such as volcanic activity, solar storms, and ocean currents. The authors state a much larger factor in climate change, over the millions of years of geologic time, is the movement of the earth's land masses through plate tectonics (known more popularly as "continental drift"). Finally, the largest impact may come from such influences as the earth's distance from the sun or the amount of energy radiating from the sun. "Human activities, such as increasing the amount of carbon dioxide and methane in the atmosphere, have very little impact on climate," said Gerhard. "These other natural processes influence climate far more, even over human history. Other processes, such as volcanic eruptions, meteor impacts, and other natural factors, are equally or more important than humans. http://www.ur.ku.edu/News/01N/JuneNews/June25/climate.html RF Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "cdb" To: Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [OT]: Is GP fabricating Global Warming evidentiary materi I have just re-read what i wrote and realise I need to re-write what I read! It is not that I don't accept that mankind is contributing to Global Warming it is just the ratio between natural and manmade. The upshot however, is we have nothing to lose by minimising further emissions. Double glazing all round for hot countries and triple glazing for cold for a start. colin -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 22/08/2002 -- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.