... >> Dave Dilatush [backwards-chip story snipped; at least he didn't insert the chip leads into his finger and draw blood, like I once did...] << NonSENSE . It happened 15 months ago when I was groping around for a cd . A 4049 inverter that I retired from my PIC programmer , because only 4/6 NOT gates were working - only my second case of static damage - knock wood. 6 pins into the little finger on the right , still got the scars left by two of the pins. And Man ,did that hurt. Lucky I was home alone. Vis Naicker -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads