James, > Hope I don't sound stupid, what's a Fobbit? A fobbit is a distant relative of a Goblin! :-) It's actually a really cool little device that Tony developed to program Flash PICs in the field. All you need is a little gadget the size of the remote for your car and a cable and you can re-program Flash PIC based products in the field. I think it's an excellent product and would be happy to manufacture them for Tony if he is interested. Check them out at http://www.bubblesoftonline.com/fobbit/fobbit.html Regards, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu