This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C246F8.A483CCD0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Wouter van Ooijen wrote: >... >> to suggest that a solderless "universal breadboard" and a box of nice >> pre-cut pre-stripped pre-tinned jumper wires -- all of about >... >> So the only piece missing, really, is a working, >> solid, no-hassle programmer. > >I agree totally. I use >- a bunch of (solderless) breadboards, permanently pre-populated with >some 0.1u and 22u caps, a power LED and a fools-diode, and bridges for >the infamous power-strip gaps >- a few simple 5V supplies (wallwart + 7805) >- a programmer (in fact: a bunch of programmers) with a D15 ICSP >connector (Wisp and Wisp628) >- some D15 to DIL clip ICSP cables, and also some D15 to bare wire ICSP >cables >- a bunch of PICs permanently seated in machined sockets (help! I am out >of narrow 28-pins machined sockets!) Buy straight strips (SIL15 or 20) and snap them to length. I do this all the time. They are more cost effective than sockets and the rigidity of 9 or more pins in a row prevents problems. A real socket with crossbraces is not really needed imho. They are also easier to pry out of stubborn female sockets (no puns here). 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