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Calm down Sean...

...I see that you have taken several of my comments that were
directed at list members as personal attacks.. I'm sorry, I
should have worded that better. Your offer was most kind, and I
don't want to seem ungrateful or cause you any hesitation about
helping out the list but I do believe that your suggestion

"So how about it? How about between us all we develop a
"STANDARD" PICList Programmer."

was misguided because the PICList has NEVER produced a viable
design for anything. Individual members of the PICList have OFTEN
produced excellent designs by pulling suggestions from the
extreem depth and breadth of other list members experience and
following their OWN thoughts about the final design.

If you want to finish the design based on the suggestions you
have recieved here, GREAT! I wish you would make that more clear
because I fear that some other list members will be angered when
there pet ideas for this project are rejected.

And again, I feel, as I stated early on, that your offer would be
much better directed towards improvement of existing designs by
individuals rather than a "between us all" effort.

You did talk to me some time ago about produceing a Pocket
Programmer kit.
http://www.piclist.com/pocketprog
I got a reply from Olimex first so I went with them and I'm very
happy with the result. Here is an excellent example: An open
source programmer that costs about $70 as a kit and does
EVERYTHING the picstart + does (and more) except that it programs
only parts that support serial programming algorithems. Why not
finance the update of this excellent device to support some extra
devices? It already has a boot loader. And produce it at cost?
Tony has done 90% of the work already. You could probably make it
for $40. Or less. I don't know, I never got a quote.

Other points: I don't own the PICList, I don't even admin it
much. I own the web site only in the since that I pay for it to
stay up. But if this discussion doesn't bear some fruit or take a
less argumentative course, I will suggest that it be moved. At
least to [OT]:. As always, I'll ask for votes from the members,
and confir with the other admins. Dale will have the final say,
not I. Finally, please don't curse on the list.
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