Something I am not quite sure about - the bootloader ? Is that free code ? I mean , I understand that we have resellers of PICs with the bootloader preprogrammed . Naturally cost is higher - but I haven't really checked to see if the bootloader was free (someone asked about programming 10PICs at a higher cost than that without a bootloader , and was generally misunderstood and answered but not giving a definite answer?) Vis Naicker -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body