BAJ wrote: > But you're defining a behavior that's not going to have major relavence= in > the vast majority of project development. = Displaying output and supplying input doesn't have major relevance to mos= t projects? > How many of us use logic analyzers on a daily basis? Not many, of course. That's because most of us don't HAVE a logic analyz= er to use on a daily basis! I'm trying to come up with a system that is an improvement over existing development techniques, for users of all experience levels. You seem to want to drag it down to something that offers nothing over existing programmers. Go buy a cheap Tait-style programmer and glue a PIC in the socket, that appears to fully meet your requirements. Jason Harper -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body