Byron, > IC sockets: Saver of precious PIC pins. Yes. I've got it. I do a lot of work with the PIC12C family and as yet there are no Flash parts. There is a PIC12F675 that was coming in May, but AFAIK it is still not here. So I have killed a lot of JW parts in the process. These guys are not cheap, and although their legs are a lot stronger than normal PICs, they only have a limited number of insertions. IC sockets are cheaper! Thanks, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.