Try: PCLogic http://members.aol.com/atpclogic/index.html For $25 they have a program in which you can design a PCB and output Gerber format. For $100 you can get a schematic diagram design program that will automatically design the PCB and output Gerber. Nelson nelson@nosuffering.com www.nosuffering.com -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of paul wood Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:24 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [OT]: PCB making without Gerber file. Hello, I want to fabricate a few PCBs, but most of the PCB vendors need PCB information in Gerber format, I only know how to generate a schematic diagram using the "Capture" program of OrCAD, to generate PCB layout further is beyond my knowledge. Is there any way to solve my problem? or is there any vendor who will accept a schematic instead the completed Gerber files? Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics