On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 09:03:57AM +1000, Tony Nixon wrote: > Byron A Jeff wrote: > > > * The product would be fully assembled, and not a kit. > > * The PIC assembly would be the target language for development. > > * The product would carry some type of breadboard prototyping. > > * The product would have a mechanism for programming PIC parts > > * The product would have some type of I/O expansion capability > > * The product will carry a CD composed of software, tutorial documentation, and > > projects geared towards the novice to intermediate user. > > I hope this doesn't sound selfish or anything but that is pretty much > describing my V5 Experimenters kit. Not selfish at all. In fact I wish you would have said something a couple of week ago. And at $86 USD it's in the price range that I've been talking about. I generally don't fuss at you as much as I do Wouter because you'll announce items as they come along, like the Fobbit for example. The only real difference between it and the Designer is that all the I/O comes mounted. And that it still seems to be targeted as a full fledged programmer. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads