At 06:24 PM 8/15/02 +0300, you wrote: > Roman, > what is the motivation of the posting? >Have you limited PCB area, or you just don't want >to mess with extra pins? >If dimensions are critical: you may use chips in >new ultra small packages(japanese microcontrollers, >if available). Not just the Japanese, see National Semiconductor's COP series and Cygnal's 11-pin 8051. Eg. COP8SAA7 4.5 x 5.5mm 28 pins (16-pin SOIC version is about 75 cents/1k) Or a 44 pin 6mm x 6mm.. Or.. C8051F301 3mm x 3mm 11 pins (has 8K of flash on chip, an internal oscillator that is accurate enough for serial comms, runs at 25MIPS) Digikey wants about $4-5 for these in 100's The problem with the 3-pin package is figuring out how to multiplex power and ground. ;-) Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com 9/11 United we Stand -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads