(To the list this time!) "Almost every cellphone contains a TXCO" This solution is trivial anymore since the advent of the microprocessor (MEASURE the ambient temperature, do a look-up in a table BASED on that particular crystal's "curve" (see Peter's postings) and feed a DC voltage to a vari-cap diode incorporated in the crystal oscillator's circuit!) - OR - - anymore it's a real easy matter to 'slave' the cell phone's frequency from transmissions coming on the "downlink" side (from the base station). Heck - the Ericsson RBS882 BS (base station) gear was synchonized to the 1.544 MBit/Sec "T-span" coming from the MTSO (mobile telephone switching office) where all the 'clocking' on those spans is derived from very accurate sources (a higher tier point from somewhere else in the network)! RF (and telco) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Harrison" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [OT]: What Test Gear to measure xtal frequency to 1Hz On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 22:24:11 +0300, you wrote: >On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Mike Singer wrote: > >>Harold M Hallikainen wrote: >>> Also, remember that setting a 12 MHz oscillator to >>> within 1 Hz means it isn't going to stay there. >>> That's 0.1 ppm. Really good crystal oscillators >>> (with temperature compensation or ovens) can maybe >>> do 1 ppm or so. >> >>Yes, from Electronicstalk.com: >> >>"The FTS501AH OCXO offers a frequency stability of >>+/-250ppb over the standard temperature range of 0 to 70C" >> >>(ppb = 1000 ppm ?) > >Yes, billion = 1e9 > >The only small problem is price. Fox TCXOs were around $40 when I last >checked and the spec was worse than 0.25ppm. Almost every cellphone contains a TXCO, therefore they must be gettable for a lot less than $40..... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu