> Thermocouples are not appropriate for that temperature range and > application, the cold junction compensation contribution will be > as much as the thermocouple, you may as well dump the thermocouple > and stick the compensator down the tube. > > > I hope you don't mind too terribly much if I just disagree with you a > > bit there. The specifications for the Fluke 80TK thermocouple module > > seem to belie your opinion about where thermocouples can be used. I think you are missing the whole point Sphero was making about the compensation circuit. Thermocouples are only *relative* measures of temperature. This is a bit simplified, but they measure the temperature difference between one end of the bi-wire cable and the other. One end is in the probe, and the other end on a circuit board. To know the absolute temperature at the probe, the circuit on the board needs to measure its own absolute temperature, then "compensate" the thermocouple signal. Sometimes this is referred to as an "electronic icepoint". This is still a win if the probe is in a flame, oven, or cryogenic chamber where the circuit wouldn't survive. In that case small variations introduced by errors in compensating for the circuit temperature are relatively insignificant, especially in relative terms compared to a flame temperature. However, thermocouples lose much of their advantage if you only want to measure human scale absolute temperatures where circuits survive and operate nicely. The circuit has to measure absolute temperature anyway. At human temperatures, you can ditch the thermocouple and just measure the absolute temperature at the probe like you would have had to at the circuit anyway. This is what Sphero meant by "stick the compensator down the tube", but he was assuming you understood how thermocouple measuring circuits worked. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu