-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Sean wrote: > > 3) I have seen some negative comments about the multiple sockets > > - and I wonder if Jason realises that I can buy ZIF sockets quite > > cheaply. > > Even if you could get ZIF sockets for as cheap as LIF, they would > take up more room on the board - about half an inch more length > than LIF, plus space for the handle when it's down. > > > Is there any way we can have a 40 Pin WIDE ZIF socket accomodate > > ALL available PICs? > > That's quite doable for programming only, but will inevitably > result in some pins that need to be connected to Vdd/Vss for some > chip sizes, but are normal I/O pins for others. Not a problem for > a programmer, since the unused I/O pins are inputs during > programming, but it wouldn't be very good for prototyping to have > some of your I/O permanently connected to the power supply... > > The main reason I didn't go for a single-socket design is that it > couldn't give any sort of meaningful names to the breadboard > connections - they would mean entirely different things depending > on the size of chip installed. HOWEVER, it has just occurred to me > how to fix this - a single-socket programmer/prototyper would have > to have some sort of personality module anyway, to route power to > only the appropriate pins for any given chip size, and that could > also handle routing all of the port pins to the appropriate pins on > the breadboard connector! > > So, here's my current idea: > * One 40-pin ZIF socket, plus the 6-pin ICSP connector as before. > * A slot for a personality card, parallel to the ZIF - it looks > like it will need about 80 pins. Could be edge connector, dual-row > header, SIMM, etc. > * One personality card for each size of PIC - 8, 18, 28, 40 pin. > They will primarily just consist of traces connecting the ZIF pins > to the Designer's bus, plus one or two OSC connectors as > appropriate for the PIC size. The only actual component likely to > be on the personality cards is a bypass cap for the target PIC, > this is the closest it could possibly be mounted to the PIC under > this scheme. Cards other than the 40-pin would have silkscreen on > the side facing the ZIF socket showing how the PIC should be > aligned in the socket. > * Since the personality cards are solely responsible for > connections to the PIC, they could also contain a socket themselves > rather than using the ZIF. > This would be useful for later development of cards for PLCC, > SOIC, or other non-DIP PICs. Congrats, you just invented CUMP. - --Brendan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBPVqD/wVk8xtQuK+BEQIRSwCfbzJX4vT6CcRYA5zoJwmf1H8v51QAnjpb y3EDyD3GLFyOuVpjOfWdE9y4 =ktLs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu