Hi Guys, I'm back! I might look like a young Forrest Gump, but I'm at my desk and being productive! Run Forrest, Run! Well, I've got to say, I just love the amount of time and effort that Jason Harper put into his proposal. You may not all agree with him (of course), but he shares a number of ideas that I have had; 1) I have always wanted to have a series of plug in oscillator modules. I think this is a must. 2) I wanted to see a header to an expansion board - with all the other goodies that you guys have been talking about. Be it an Option or included with the original kit. I was thinking of a 40 Pin or maybe 50 Pin header (allowing a few spare for supply rails etc.) - but I must say that the SIP header facing down is simply brilliant and must be considered. 3) I have seen some negative comments about the multiple sockets - and I wonder if Jason realises that I can buy ZIF sockets quite cheaply. Is there any way we can have a 40 Pin WIDE ZIF socket accomodate ALL available PICs? On a related note, you guys are all pushing heavily for an LCD. I have seen that you often talk about LCDs for around $30 or so. But you are also suggesting that this full kit will retail for around $20~$30. I hope that everybody realises that I can not even begin to look at costings until we have a final rough design. I think Jason has given us much to consider. Cheers, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body