Byron A Jeff wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 07:53:28PM +1000, Roman Black wrote: > > I've been having a little chuckle > > over the way this "super cheap beginners programmer" > > has now developed into the pentultimate development > > kit... > > Truth be told I'm hoping for the ultimate development kit at a moderate > programmer's price. It's a really unique opportunity. Plus penultimate implies > that there will be something better! ;-) Ha ha! But PENTultimate is 5 times better still! ;o) > However the chance to get a fully assembled and package unit built with > Taiwanese (sp?) large scale purchased components that will be built, shipped, > and distributed at cost is simply too good to pass up. I agree totally that this would be a truly awesome tool for a beginner! I do wonder if Sean who originally offered quite a generous offer of his time, money etc to source parts and do manufacturing, is now at risk of being put out (so to speak) because the design spec has increased so much. I'm worried that project is blowing out and becoming a huge work load for a lot of people. People are now talking LCDs and really well written CD manuals/tutorials etc, this is a large project now. A lot of man hours just to do good manuals and document all the features. There are reasons that commercial PIC developer boards that do all this stuff cost a lot of money... I'm going out on a limb here and saying that there IS a beginner need for a SIMPLE BUILT PROGRAMMER. Something with a buffer chip and a 12v transistor for HVP and costs about $5. Just plug it in and start programming. And not be scared and put off by a huge thick manual... :o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics