On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 07:53:28PM +1000, Roman Black wrote: > I've been having a little chuckle > over the way this "super cheap beginners programmer" > has now developed into the pentultimate development > kit... Truth be told I'm hoping for the ultimate development kit at a moderate programmer's price. It's a really unique opportunity. Plus penultimate implies that there will be something better! ;-) Roman, Under normal circumstances I'd be suggesting that folks simply by Wouter's WISP628 kit ($17 USD), or if uncomfortable with soldering an assembled unit ($57 USD). Or if they're in a hurry or really cheap simply build my TLVP. However the chance to get a fully assembled and package unit built with Taiwanese (sp?) large scale purchased components that will be built, shipped, and distributed at cost is simply too good to pass up. > I just know that in two weeks the "PBK" will have motor driver chips, Too specific. > hex keypad, Actully a possibility if a small one can be found cheap enough. Personally my thinking is that a universal remote makes an excellent portable keypad. > serial eeprom, No need. All of our target chips has some measure of data EEPROM on board. Plus an external serial EEPROM only takes 5 minutes to wire to the breadboard anyway. > graphic LCD, > pc keyboard interface, > RGB video out... Again all too specific. The Designer should encompass the set of common I/O interfaces that many projects will use. I do admit that IR isn't on that list (selfish motivation ;-) but the others are commonly used. > ;o) I hear you chuckling Roman... Since you can design or fix most anything electronic with a couple of transistors and bailing wire (a trait that I greatly admire BTW), I know why you're chuckling. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics