On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:12:25 -0500, you wrote: >On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:38:58 -0400, Michael A. Powers wrote: >>Don't get me wrong, I like Microchip, and I like the way that they >>provide their development software for free. =A0But there are just a = few >>things about MPLAB that really get to me. =A0I can ignore the small >>bugs, lackluster interface, and the fact Microsoft is developing 64 >>bit windows and MPLAB is still 16 bit. Such things are immaterial. >>(Hopefully v. 6.0 will be a big improvement.) =A0What I can't ignore is >>the poor performance of the simulator. =A0It seems to be intentionally >>lethargic! =A0Why must programs like SPEED.EXE be used as an = accelerant? >>Is MPLAB sandbagged? =A0It consumes about 1% of the CPU's resources and >>idles the rest. =A0I though that Microchip might not expend much effort >>on MPLAB in the hopes that 3rd party developers would pick up the >>slack, but where are they? >> >>What do you think about this? > >I haven't liked MPLAB for at least 5 years (since before they said >MPLAB 6 would be out "anytime" and "soon"). Yes, they were saying that >at the Masters Conference in 1997! So far I'm not too impressed with >MPLAB 6 either, but it's obviously still young. > >My major gripes with MPLAB has always the 16-bit code, the clunky >simulator (although I do use it once in a while), the AWFUL support for >3rd party compilers -- especially source level debugging in C. Some may >say it's not realistic to ask Microchip to support 3rd party tools, >BUT... > >this leads us to Michael's question "I though that Microchip might not >expend much effort on MPLAB in the hopes that 3rd party developers >would pick up the slack, but where are they?" > >The answer is simple: Would you expend significant time and energy to >design, develop and market a 3rd party equivalent to MPLAB when MPLAB >is FREE? I've thought several times about writing one myself, but each >time I look at what I might be able to charge for it and the limited >market size -- well, it's very discouraging to say the least. Plus, >Microchip is not very willing to divulge technical details of things >like the Picstart+ interface and such. I doubt anyone could sell >anything less than a full-featured IDE for a sum that would pay back >the engineering investment in a reasonable time frame. > >I'm disappointed in Microchip's development tool group. They are good >guys and I've met several of them. My own personal opinion is they >really don't have sufficient funding/staffing/support with regards to >the tools they'd like to produce and support. Of course, that's my >opinion... I could be wrong. ;-) I think they're just too busy keeping up with all the zillions of product variations.... do they REALLY need that many different PICs ? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads