On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:38:58 -0400, Michael A. Powers wrote: >Don't get me wrong, I like Microchip, and I like the way that= they >provide their development software for free. =A0But there are just= a few >things about MPLAB that really get to me. =A0I can ignore the= small >bugs, lackluster interface, and the fact Microsoft is developing= 64 >bit windows and MPLAB is still 16 bit. Such things are= immaterial. >(Hopefully v. 6.0 will be a big improvement.) =A0What I can't= ignore is >the poor performance of the simulator. =A0It seems to be= intentionally >lethargic! =A0Why must programs like SPEED.EXE be used as an= accelerant? >Is MPLAB sandbagged? =A0It consumes about 1% of the CPU's= resources and >idles the rest. =A0I though that Microchip might not expend much= effort >on MPLAB in the hopes that 3rd party developers would pick up= the >slack, but where are they? > >What do you think about this? I haven't liked MPLAB for at least 5 years (since before they= said MPLAB 6 would be out "anytime" and "soon"). Yes, they were saying= that at the Masters Conference in 1997! So far I'm not too impressed= with MPLAB 6 either, but it's obviously still young. My major gripes with MPLAB has always the 16-bit code, the= clunky simulator (although I do use it once in a while), the AWFUL= support for 3rd party compilers -- especially source level debugging in C.= Some may say it's not realistic to ask Microchip to support 3rd party= tools, BUT... this leads us to Michael's question "I though that Microchip= might not expend much effort on MPLAB in the hopes that 3rd party= developers would pick up the slack, but where are they?" The answer is simple: Would you expend significant time and= energy to design, develop and market a 3rd party equivalent to MPLAB when= MPLAB is FREE? I've thought several times about writing one myself, but= each time I look at what I might be able to charge for it and the= limited market size -- well, it's very discouraging to say the least.= Plus, Microchip is not very willing to divulge technical details of= things like the Picstart+ interface and such. I doubt anyone could sell anything less than a full-featured IDE for a sum that would pay= back the engineering investment in a reasonable time frame. I'm disappointed in Microchip's development tool group. They are= good guys and I've met several of them. My own personal opinion is= they really don't have sufficient funding/staffing/support with= regards to the tools they'd like to produce and support. Of course, that's= my opinion... I could be wrong. ;-) Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu