On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Sean Alcorn (SYD) wrote:

> No parallel port on new PCs? Have not seen a PC without one yet - although
> parallel was never in the running.

I've seen them from Dell and, I think Compaq; and of course you won't find
them on most notebooks, which are more and more common as an only
computer.  They're becoming and will continue to become less and less
available as manufacturers embrace Microsoft's "legacy-free" vision.  It
sucks, but in this case I think the light at the end of the tunnel is
probably a train.

> > USB?  You just left out all NT users, and anyone with older hardware.
>
> AFAIK, My Windows 2000 (NT) supported USB and so does my Windows XP Pro

Windows 2000 != Windows NT, which does not support USB.

And my whole point here (though I admit it may have been a bit obtuse) is
that a person with a modern computer, or who can afford to dedicate a
system just to PIC development, already has a vast array of readily
available, inexpensive commercially made programmers, kits, etc. from
which to choose.

> So you'll sit this one out *after* you've had your say?

I never said I wouldn't say anything, I simply said I don't see anywhere I
can contribute anything toward what I would consider to be a truly
universal beginner setup, which I understood to be the point.  Last time I
checked it wasn't a violation of international law to offer an opinion.

Dale

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