My feelings on the not for profit bit is that the kit should be sold with minimal profit. If the kit is sold at non profit and there is a problem with it, the user will expect to return it and a new one sent out. This will result in someone losing money. I would like to see a minimal profit on the starter kits so the consumer gets the best value kit possible. What good is a "bust" distributor to anybody. Everybody should make a little money, the end user should get a kit that he can afford and everybody should be happy !!!!!!!!! We could even roll in a couple of dollars (pounds) to donate to this excellent newsgroup (Piclist ;-) ) as there is discussion about supporting new users through here. It isn't fair to expect this group to be paid for by one person, selling our product then pointing the user here for support while the owner of Piclist picks up the cost. Just a thought Dominic ----- Original Message ----- From: "myke predko" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [PIC]: Piclist Beginners Kit (PBK) - Round 2 > > > > One last point. I've been around the block enough to know that somebody > that is willing to donate their time and provide the kits without profit is > going to loose money. > > For Shawn and the others that have offered to support this without a profit, > I know I speak for all of the list when I say the gesture is appreciated, > but really think about what you are saying. You have inventory costs, NREs, > equipment costs, insurance, salaries, rent as well as lost opportunity time, > all of which have to be paid for somehow. > > If and when we get something together, I strongly recommend that you come up > with a strong business case that covers all the foreseeable costs as well as > some reasonable contingency and some money for your time. It doesn't help > anybody if providing the kits costs you so much money that you can't afford > to keep going. If you have to raise your price to cover the costs and get > some of your losses back you will get flamed because you are an awful > person, now asking for money for something that used to be free. > > > > Back at you for round three, > > myke > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.