-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - From what I've read here, I'd say that I can see two solutions that would be good. (here come the flames) 1. Use a SMD PIC on a small board with osciallator built in, and ICD socket built in, and add pins so that it can be used as a 40-pin or 28-pin wide DIP, depending on which PIC is chosen. 2.Use a ZIF socketed through-hole PIC on its own ICD/programmer with a 40-pin IDC connector, and a ribbon cable to DIP connector on the other end. This one should support the up and comming 18F parts, despite their current unavailability. For either option, If it could be made to work with a USB interface, so much the better. IEEE1394 would be even better, but there is limited support for that, as far as I have found. Failing USB/IEEE1394, RS-232 is the next best thing. Power supply should be integrated. As to switches/LEDs/LCDs etc. They are unnecessary, but nice to have. My $0.02 - --Brendan P.S. I'm interested in helping however I can. I'm in western Canada, for the sake of working out distributors. P.P.S. When CUMP is finished, this project could, perhaps, be adapted to use CUMP as a helpful base. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBPVAvzQVk8xtQuK+BEQLoiwCgxPNH8BAFhHLnDrsyWb43lWIXcjMAoNUi Y+Jkre7w0+E1qK7OX7G2gIrn =ufPU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics