Thanks to all who responded. I am doing this to learn more about driving brushless motors. This model is a 30W unit but I may eventually have to do a design for a ~300W motor (going in an electric powered model helicopter). I may have given people the wrong impression with my message: I'm not usually the sort of person who just "tries all combinations" until something works. The only reason why I did that was because I had such scant info on how the hall outputs corresponded to the phases that I thought it couldn't hurt to try every combination as an easy way to start (as long as I didn't let the current flow long enough to damage anything). As it turns out, I was given an older copy of the Maxon catalog today and it has a diagram in it that isn't included in my motor's datasheet, which shows how their motors are meant to be driven. I must say, Morgan is right, they apparently do expect you to tristate each phase for part of its cycle (actually, this would be roughly the same as setting it to half voltage since the wye neutral point sits around half voltage anyway, and this happens when the back emf for that phase is near zero). As for current vs. voltage drive, I haven't heard that either, Roman, although I suppose it doesn't matter which way you do it as long as you achieve the same operating point. The maxon motor has about 1.2 ohm from phase to phase. Of course, the 300W one that I may have to do later has only a few tens of milliohms. Tomorrow night or Wednesday I hope to try running it with the sequence from the catalog and see what happens. I thought it through and I think I can see why it would help reduce the current greatly (since the way I was doing it before causes full voltage to be applied even during the point in the cycle when the back emf is near zero). I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks! Sean At 09:01 AM 8/6/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Peter L. Peres wrote: > > > > >Second, brushless motors are current operated devices > > >(obviously) and you should operate them at the correct > > >spec current. Like steppers they usually have low-turns > > >(low ohms) coils, and are meant to be driven with some type > > >of constant current supply, like a chopper etc. In short, > > >you need some type of pwm etc on the motor coils to establish > > >correct running current. > > > > This is new to me. Could you indicate a reference for brushless motors > > being made for use with constant current supplies ? > > >Hi Peter, maybe "constant current supply" is a little >too literal, I meant that the motors are very low turns >and attention to CORRECT current needs to be a function >of PWM current limiting etc, ie deliberate, rather than >just connecting a power supply which will cause the >symptoms he saw, of 40x the specified current. > >Most of the VCR 3-coil flatmotors I have here have >only a handful of turns on each of the 3 coils, they >are almost short circuit to measure. > >So by "constant current supply" I meant a "current-controlled >supply that only allows a fraction of the current that >would flow it it was turned on constantly". ;o) >-Roman > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: >[PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads ------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads