>FRAM (ferroelectric ram) devices in lieu of FLASH http://www.ramtron.com/aboutfram/aboutfram.htm Might do for a future product but for the present I can't see one bigger than 256k, which is a long way short of the 4M I need. I have no idea who the local supplier would be to ask - what's the price like ? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads