Hi Alan, > If you are really going to go with a beginners kit, could I suggest that > MPLAB compatibility would make things a lot easier for the beginner? Yes. That's the way I'm thinking, but that's where we need help - developing the programmer that MPLAB can talk to! :-) Regards, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads