Myke, Great to have you onboard. Your books were a huge help to me as a newbie! :-) Do we need programming software, or can we easily get the programmer to be MPLAB compatible? Regards, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads