Dear all, I don't want to seem harsh but are we really suggesting that Kieren builds his own mains powered PSU? It wasn't so long ago that I was regularly soldering components in backwards [infact that's why the NOPPP programmer didn't work first time :)] but logic suggested I stayed away from mains electricity..... Ben -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu