Kieren Johnstone wrote: > * Turned on +12V, +5V (actually more like 3.6V - 3xAA rechargable), but programming datasheet says this is fine) Not sure I understand this. I thought the data sheet said 5V VDD should be used for programming mode. -- Best regards Tony mICros http://www.bubblesoftonline.com mailto:sales@bubblesoftonline.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu