On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 00:06, you wrote: > Hi guys, > > > Me too, but Dutch based and already selling PIC stuff - but not that I > > have a programmer KIT of my own that I sell. > > It keeps getting called a "kit" - but I thought the original concept was > for a fully tested and functional unit that the newbies couldn't screw up? > > I mean, if they can be confident that the programmer works, they can > concentrate on working out why their first PIC program does not. We should > supply a number of ASM and/or C and HEX files for various Flash chips that > they can burn straight out of the box. Maybe even a little demo board too. > If that works, they know the programmer and setup all works and get on with > their own project(s). > > Let's clarify this in the early stages. > > Sean Although I do not use the pics, I have an idea, why not jumper the signals for programming over to a socket for the pic to sit in. then when the jumpers are removed, you have say 8 smd switches and 8 smd leds that runn of the pic, all port pins avaliable on headers (say 10 way (2x5's) which are 8 data bits and a +Vcc and gnd) the same as the AVR STK 300 / 500 etc. Regards, Kat. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- K.A.Q. Electronics Software and Electronic Engineering Perth, Western Australia Phone +61 (0) 419 923 731 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu