How about a kit? http://www.voti.nl/wisp628 Assuming you are outside the EC it will cost you $ 24.59 (using PayPal, includes ww s/h) Specifically supports 16f877 (and most other flash PICs) Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------ http://www.voti.nl PICmicro chips, programmers, consulting > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Kieren Johnstone > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:47 PM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [PIC]: My latest woes! (programming) > > > OK, well this isn't working. > > If anyone wants to build me one (for a price, of course), e-mail me > individually and I can send you details.. > I only offer this because I feel there isn't a specific > 16F877 programmer > out there and (evidently) I lack the knowledge to build one > that works! ;) > > Of course, if anyone has ideas regarding my current setup > that would still > be helpful!! > > Look forward to hearing from you ;) > -Kieren > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [PIC]: My latest woes! (programming) > > > > At 12:00 PM 8/3/02 +0100, you wrote: > > > > Hey guy > > > > >Hiyas, > > >I built Jim's programmer (uses 74HCT125 now)... anyway now > I have the > > weirdest results yet (yay)! > > >Just as an example, I'll do some stuff riiiight now..: > > > > > >* Turned on +12V, +5V (actually more like 3.6V - 3xAA > rechargable), but > > programming > > datasheet says this is fine) > > > > Hmmm I don't know about 12v did you build the 2 regulators into the > circuit? > > I'v seen it mentioned on the list before that 12v is > pushing it. with the > lm317 > > you get 13v. I have been using my programmer to program my > robot which has > > a large 12v gelcell and a 7805 regulator of it's own to > power the 16f874 > but > > alot of times I get failed to program running it from that > 5v. I have to > connect > > it to my bench 5v supply then it always works. So maybe you are have > trouble > > with your battery supply for 5v. > > > > > > >* Loaded FPP, checked setup (ok) > > >* Clicked read, ok > > >* Woo! Screenfulla' 3F8C's code, 00 00 etc. data > > >* Clicked load, loaded FLASHLED.HEX > > >* Clicked program, ok > > >* "Failed to program code!" instantly > > >* Clicked read, ok again, for kicks.. got 2C24 followed by > 8 0000's, then > > all 3F8Cs. Near the end, 3FFF x4, 0000, then 3F16 09A5. > Data is now all > > 80's! Config has also changed, from "####" to "2C24" > > >* Reset power supplies, clicked read, got 3FFF, load of > 0000s, data all > 0000s. > > >* Ooie, transistor is hot.. I'll try turning it round > *shrug*.. nope, now > > it all reads as --Blank-- and still fails to program.. > turned it back, > reads > > 3FFF then 00s again. > > > > Ok I'm getting the feeling that your using an external 12v > supply for mclr > > that may work > > for programming but if you are note the schematic you are > connecting 12v > to > > the collector > > of the transistor through 100 ohms this may be to much > current in the > > schematic 13v > > goes to mclr through a 2.2k then the transistor when turned > on pulls it to > > ground > > through the 100ohm total 2.3k resistance. I used a 2n3904 > suface mount > > transistor here > > and it's running cool. (god it's hard to concentrate with a > 2 year old > > crying for barny) > > If you want to try programming with a 12v supply connect it to mclr > through > > a 2.2k > > > > If all else fails. Disable read by setting (read & in) in > fpp setup to > nothing > > program the chip see if it flashes the led. > > > > Jim > > > > > > >* Doesn't work if I connect +12V connectly to MCLR either > (with 100ohm > > resistor) > > > > > >I have... no idea.. if anyone is recognising anything > click that lil > reply > > button :) Thanks > > > > > >-Kieren > > > > > >-- > > >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > > >email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu