Hi, Jinx. From 148g3.pdf - Microchip Product Line: "Future" section. PIC18F1220# 18-Lead PDIP PIC18F1320# 18-Lead PDIP These 18-Lead chips will be available when a beginner became non-beginner. There is a rumor that 18F in smaller packages will also be available. It takes not so much time to deliver new 18F to Australia: For clippers such as "Cutty Sark" or "Fermopila" it takes usualy about two months. Mike. Jinx wrote: > > > > The fact that there still exist market for 12-16XXX has > > > no relation to beginner. > > > > ???? Please rephrase. > > I think he meant just because the 12-16XXX are popular and freely > available that's no reason to begin with them > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu