>Take one more crack at it. If not then I'll solder up a THVP (adding the >13V >Vpp circuit), test it, and mail it to you. > >BAJ Big Up to Byron! Given a schematic, I would be happy to run a few panels of PCB's that could be offered to newbies for $5 or so each. If another party could compile that information on 16F628s that everyone has been talking about, we might construct an excellent package for beginners and end the beginner's debate once and for all. Rather than arguing every few months about what is best for the beginner, we might pool our strengths and make a "Piclist Beginners Kit." I would be happy to freely offer my design services to whatever project was selected by the majority. A parts kit with PCB could be offered, perhaps with the documentation for a few simple projects that demonstrate good design practices, authored by the list's "heavy hitters." I would be happy to distribute the kits, or be just as happy to hand my PCBs off to someone else. Just an idea. Any supporters? -Shawn >Take one more crack at it. If not then I'll solder up a THVP (adding the >13V >Vpp circuit), test it, and mail it to you. > >BAJ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu